Credit Where Credit is Due

Friday, 17 February 2012

Alice has written a very thought-provoking post about Pinterest. If you are a Pinterest user then I urge you to read it and Sue's post and the links she includes in it.

I've spent a good deal of time this morning going through my pins and checking everything led back to its original source. While the majority do, a lot don't and those that don't were almost exclusively pinned from Tumblr blogs.

 Although I found a few exceptions it seems that most Tumblr bloggers post images without giving the original source or any credit to its photographer, or indeed any information at all. All you get is  'image via lovelyprettythingsIfoundontheinternet'* (or similar) which will just take you to another Tumblr blog called sparklygirlheartspolkadots** (or some such) and so on ad infinitum. Pretty soon any hope of finding the original image is lost and you sigh and pin it anyway. 

But, what if one of my images was lost in the depths of Tumblr being endlessly circulated but with no credit given to me? How would I feel? Pretty bloody pissed off to be frank.

There are a lot of my images on Pinterest which link directly back to their original post and that is great, absolutely marvellous, couldn't be more thrilled, please carry on pinning. 
I have, however, decided to stop pinning (again) . It will take me forever to go through all my pins checking they have been correctly credited , it seems easier to just close my account. I do enjoy Pinterest greatly but I have to admit there is something a bit empty about it, and  it's such a time-waster.

* Made up name -apologies if you really do have a Tumblr account of that name
**  See above


Real pins in my pin cushion




Made by my mum many years ago. Crewel work on canvas in wool.
Isn't she clever? You can pin it if you like but make sure you link it back to this post :o)

32 comments:

  1. I don't do Printerest, Twitter, Facebook or anything else of the such-like but please be reassured that I always link where-ever possible just out of politeness on my blog.
    I am admiring your mum's work it is beautiful. My mum made a stool cover similar to the pincushion, which I now have. I love old needlework, and apreciate the work that goes into it.
    Julie xxxxxxxxxxx

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  2. I just discovered Pinterest recently and had these same thoughts. Being a nosy parker I always go back to the original source anyway just in case there is something else there that might grab me, which in turn leads to mornings gone. I do find it handy to have one place to go to find all the things I otherwise lose/forget how I got to, but have already realised I need to limit my time!
    Your mother's work is beautiful, a much better use of time!
    Sandra x

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  3. Merritt (Droitwich)1:16 pm GMT

    I just discovered Pinterest, too & I recently saw an image from one of my favourite bloggers, Posy. As an avid follower I was shocked because there was nothing linking her image(s) to her site & if I was a blogger like her, I'd be gutted. I did re-pin her image, but added her website in the field so others could see. I truly *hope* this gets sorted on Pinterest soon. I have seen a direct "Pin" link added to several bloggers posts recently so their blogs will get the traffic, perhaps other bloggers can use this pin link until something changes? Not ideal but credit needs to go where credit is due! Loving your blog btw...just up from you in Droitwich! x

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    1. Hi there Merritt. I'm in Droitwich all the time, mostly at Waitrose.

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  4. I love tumblr, but you are entirely right about the crediting of images. I always make a point of reblogging something I recongise that hasn't been credited - usually an artist who sells on Etsy. If I know them, I fully credit my new post, hoping that it will be the one that gets passed on and the uncredited versions fade away. Unlikely, but worth a try.

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  5. Your mom's crewel embroidery is superb. I love those colors and the dense combination of stitches. Her artistry is quite wonderful.

    Now, on to Pinterest. I always enjoy Mouse's blogs, and find them very thoughtful. I've never visited the Pinterest site, and after reading the informative links in Mouse's blog, and your additionally informative post, I think I will continue to stay clear of any pinning.

    Many thanks for the information (and for that luscious looking tomato sauce receipe, too.

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  6. Gorgeous crewel-work pincushion! I'm popping over to find out more about the pinterest now...

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  7. Your mother's pincushion is a worthier thing than the whole social media empire. Should we all meet one day to swap cookery tips in the jam aisle of the Droitwich Waitrose?

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    1. You can buy jam?

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    2. My sister in Nottingham told me that the best way to obtain jars for homemade jam are to buy lots of Tesco own brand lemon curd, for something ridiculous like 17 pence, and use those jars. I daren't ask what she does with the lemon curd.

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  8. Your Mum's crewel work is wonderful, how big is the piece?

    I recently joined Pinterest but I can't work out what to do on it, any clues please?

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    1. It's about 6 inches square TA.
      Pinterest is easy peasy. You need to go to the help page and install the pin gadget which is just a case of dragging it to your task bar. Once it is installed you just click on it when you see an image you want to pin and all the images available to pin will appear. Repinning an image on pinterest is a doddle, just click on 'repin' you'll soon get the hang.

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  9. Sue I'm pleased to say I haven't got a clue what you're on about!! but I do like your Mum's crewel work!

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  10. I have to say that I don't tend to pin the tumblr pics because I really want the original. I very rarely pin something without a link (because really, what is the point?). But yes, I can see why that would be bad!
    (I have also trawled through endless posts trying to find an original post just so I can link it properly. But that is just me!)

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    1. I agree. I also want the original link; I want that pattern or that recipe or whatever IT is. I always try to pin the original link. If I don't have time at that moment, I 'like' it and track it down later.

      Renee :)

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  11. I'm not on Pinterest as I find I spend too much time in blogland and Ravelry already! However, I did read that post last night and thought it raised good points on ensuring credit goes to where it should.
    Lovely pin cushion.
    Carol xx

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  12. Yours, Sue's and Alice's posts have been so timely and appropriate. It really annoys me when a picture is posted without credit to the original source. I recently asked for an 'invite' to join Pinterest, and when I got it I was appalled to find I needed a Facebook or Twitter account in order to join. I emailed Pinterest and asked if there was a way round this, and they didn't bother to reply. I won't be signing up (and yes, you guessed, I have an absolute loathing of Facebook). Spend too much time online anyway!

    Happy weekend, Sue!

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    1. I don't have either but still managed to join. Can't remember how though. Cannot stand fb either.

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  13. I'd been sort of wavering about joining pinterest because everybody else seems to be doing it but I'm glad to read what you had to say as this is another reason not too.....ontop of the fact that it would mean more time online and not having a life!!

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  14. I'm not into pinterest at all - I bet it's the time-waster you said! - but I do like your mum's pin cushion: how lovely that you still use it.

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  15. I could have sworn I'd commented here yesterday Sue ... no idea what happened there.

    Couldn't agree more with your post, which as you know inspired mine. That said, for me the jury is out on Pinterest, maybe with all this exposure - the site seems to be under discussion everywhere, with a lot of negative comment - they will clean up their act. Meanwhile I shall proceed with caution and have already started 'tidying up' my own pins.

    Gorgeous pincushion :D

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  16. Thankfully I only recently joined pinterest and realized that if I pinned something that was not from the original website - then the original person was not getting the credit.... I fixed all my "errors" and now only pin from original.... I love pinterest in that I can pin all of my favorite craft projects or crochet patterns and am able to pull them up when I am ready...... I hope that if I have pinned your pictures I have made sure they link back to you....

    Take care and thanks for all of your insight!
    Stacey

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  17. Gorgeous crewel-work pincushion! I'm popping over to find out more about the pinterest now...

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  18. This is so timely! I recently has a post on my blog about the same thing. Is pinterest encouraging a culture of 'pinning' other people's intellectual property with (far too much?) ease.

    It's tough. I love pinning because I can collate collections and beautiful ideas and I have discovered some amazing blogs through my pinning credits....but it does seem like such an infringement at times.

    I am torn on this. My biggest problem is that no one can actually 'stop' their work being pinned, if they theoretically want to. Which is so rude.

    Love the cushion!

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    1. You can stop your images being pinned. There is a little bit of html code you can put at the top of your page which will prevent it. Look on the Pinterest help page for it.

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  19. Pati from London1:20 pm GMT

    Hi Sue, this is an interesting post. To be honest, I do like to use pinterest as it is a great source of inspiration and ideas but I have been thinking lately that I feel a bit too hooked to it and spend far too much of my time (which could be used for other things) on it. Perhaps it is the beginning and like other internet things I will eventually get bored of it...
    Concerning tumblr, I have never heard of it but I guess that I have pinned other people's pins without noticing where they came from: tumblr or the like. I will have a look at my pins and see what I find. This post has brought this issue to my attention and it is indeed quite interesting but worrying....
    The other day I heard on the radio that pinterest was the fastest growing social network in the world. I bet somebody will end up cashing in at our cost, big time. Even though I have a facebook account I don't use it very much and have always made sure I don't post any photos of my children (or of anyone else) as they become the property of facebook and God knows what hackers or trollers could potentially do with them. Even though I believe that it is right to quote the source as a matter of politeness and good internet practise, I also believe everyone of us is responsible for what we put on the net either on fb, flickr, blogs, pinterest or other sites as they are targets for anybody to mess around with. Another big problem is the lack of legilation concerning these matters; hopefully things will change in the future and users will be more protected. In the meantime I think it is good to be cautious, courteous and wise users.

    Your mum's work is gorgeous, Pati x

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  20. This is very timely. I tried to cancel my account a few days ago, but as I use Pinterest so irregularly I couldn't for the life of me remember how to get back into my account. The things I've pinned from the original source are all credited, but there are other things I've pinned that, having read your post, I now realise I have no idea about. Pinterest is just another virtual rabbit hole as far as my internet use is concerned, and I find I've wasted hours just peering at STUFF, which is why I was trying to close my account, that and the way it keeps saying that I am following people whose boards I've never even visited. Now I have another reason to ditch it. It's on my post-half term to do list... Thank you.

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    1. Charlotte I think all you need to do is click on your nameat the top right of the page and you will be able to access your account settings and there you will find an option to delete the account.

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  21. I find Pinterest really useful for keeping things, but I'd never pin images for the sake of it. Often Pinterest won't let me pin things that I want to keep because the page I'm looking at doesn't have any images on it; which is a pretty good indicator of how I use it.

    It is a failing of mine, but I'm not a very visual person at all; I'm always looking for the writing, for the information. The image in a pin is just a marker for me, and unless the source links back to a proper tutorial or something with actual words in it I wouldn't tend to pin it. My lack of a well-formed visual sense probably comes across very strongly in the quality of the photographs on my blog.

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  22. arghhh, this is the final straw! I have been horrified at the scale of failure to credit sources on both tumblr and pinterest recently and have just deleted my accounts on both. That pinterest small print is scary. Thanks for helping me make up my mind and I hope it is ok if I make a link to your post here on my blog when I post on same subject? Bx

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    1. Yes, of course, link away.

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  23. I started using Pinterest last month. After reading the spate of articles I became very concerned and chose to delete my account, after a sad farewell to my Boards. You can still check out their Homepage for inspiration, altho I will admit now that 75% of it is of no interest to me!

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